Sunday, May 22, 2011
The Master's journey...
It doesn't feel real yet, but I have finished the assignments for my Master's of Educational Leadersip. It all began back in January 2009 with my first trip to Wellington for the contact time for the first two papers. I met some amazing people and many of them I have travelled the journey with. So I guess it has been a 28month journey. I look back in awe that I managed to complete 6 papers while I was working full-time...... It sure is great to have the opportunity to take my time this year. My latest two assignments were amazing. I created a movie telling a story of leadership over three generations of females. It was very emotional to create and was a wonderful journey. The finished product is a real treasure and I feel so privileged to have made this journey. My final assignment was my overall vision for education. It was a synthesis of the previous 7 papers outlined and linking my key concepts for leadership. I did this in the form of a cloak of leadership - He Korowai Rangitiratanga, integrating hauora, with my main concepts - Passion, Vision, Sharing, Relationship, Authenticity, and Spiritual Hope. Alongside this I touched on the key competencies, creation, collaboration, communication, empowering, showing resilience and storytelling. This essay took me almost all semester to get to a point where I was happy to let it go!!! I am very happy with the model I created to show the integration of my concepts, and love the tagxedo of my assignment. Now I await the results...
Wednesday, May 4, 2011
Korowai
Today I co-facilitated a staff meeting around our ability to cope with implementation dips when coping with change in our education environment. We had prepared well for this and were really looking forward to this as at start of term activity.
Our Principal started with a quick chat and drawing of the implementation dip then we had a look at 5 whakatauki.
We talked about our well being when coping with change and life as a teacher. One way of doing this is weaving a protective cloth to protect us and help us through the tough times. We can look at how we can support each other and be aware of individual needs.
The cloak has four panels – the 4 elements of Hauora in the Health Curriculum
Hauora is a Māori philosophy of health unique to New Zealand. It comprises taha tinana, taha hinengaro, taha whanau, and taha wairua.
Taha tinana - Physical well-being
the physical body, its growth, development, and ability to move, and ways of caring for it
Taha hinengaro - Mental and emotional well-being
coherent thinking processes, acknowledging and expressing thoughts and feelings and responding constructively
Taha whanau - Social well-being
family relationships, friendships, and other interpersonal relationships; feelings of belonging, compassion, and caring; and social support
Taha wairua - Spiritual well-being
the values and beliefs that determine the way people live, the search for meaning and purpose in life, and personal identity and self-awareness (For some individuals and communities, spiritual well- being is linked to a particular religion; for others, it is not.)
Each of these four dimensions of hauora influences and supports the others.
Our discussion around our needs as teachers, as a staff was amazing. It rapidly became evident that we have similar concerns and needs with regard to work/live balance and we discussed what our basic needs are to face the future and cope with challenge and change. We each wrote our concepts 3-6ish on a band of fabric to weave into the korowai. The time of individual sharing and reflection was very powerful.
The next phase was adding the decoration to the cloak in the form of feathers. For this each of us thought of a time when we’ve been at our best supporting someone else. What did you do? After sharing this story with a partner we chose two words each to identify our strengths. Having written these on the feathers we added them to the cloak.
At a later date we will revisit the Korowai reflecting on our beliefs, principles, Key Competencies and indicators.
This was an incredibly inclusive, supportive experience to be a part of. The Korowai is hanging on the staffroom wall as a work in progress. It is a cloth to support us, protect and nurture us as we face change together throughout the year.
(An example of how to use this Korowai experience with a class can be found in Everybody Belongs - The Curriculum in Action.)
We reflected on the four the cloak we wanted to make and our needs - wahl -
the discussion was amazing.... it went from strength to strength as we all
realised we have the same concerns and needs etc.
I am attaching photos of our work in progress.
It was AMaZING - everyone really got involved and seemed to really enjoy
the journey.
The cloak is now up on the staffroom wall with plenty of space for more to
add their strip as lots were away today.
Thanks Again
Anne K
Our Principal started with a quick chat and drawing of the implementation dip then we had a look at 5 whakatauki.
We talked about our well being when coping with change and life as a teacher. One way of doing this is weaving a protective cloth to protect us and help us through the tough times. We can look at how we can support each other and be aware of individual needs.
The cloak has four panels – the 4 elements of Hauora in the Health Curriculum
Hauora is a Māori philosophy of health unique to New Zealand. It comprises taha tinana, taha hinengaro, taha whanau, and taha wairua.
Taha tinana - Physical well-being
the physical body, its growth, development, and ability to move, and ways of caring for it
Taha hinengaro - Mental and emotional well-being
coherent thinking processes, acknowledging and expressing thoughts and feelings and responding constructively
Taha whanau - Social well-being
family relationships, friendships, and other interpersonal relationships; feelings of belonging, compassion, and caring; and social support
Taha wairua - Spiritual well-being
the values and beliefs that determine the way people live, the search for meaning and purpose in life, and personal identity and self-awareness (For some individuals and communities, spiritual well- being is linked to a particular religion; for others, it is not.)
Each of these four dimensions of hauora influences and supports the others.
Our discussion around our needs as teachers, as a staff was amazing. It rapidly became evident that we have similar concerns and needs with regard to work/live balance and we discussed what our basic needs are to face the future and cope with challenge and change. We each wrote our concepts 3-6ish on a band of fabric to weave into the korowai. The time of individual sharing and reflection was very powerful.
The next phase was adding the decoration to the cloak in the form of feathers. For this each of us thought of a time when we’ve been at our best supporting someone else. What did you do? After sharing this story with a partner we chose two words each to identify our strengths. Having written these on the feathers we added them to the cloak.
At a later date we will revisit the Korowai reflecting on our beliefs, principles, Key Competencies and indicators.
This was an incredibly inclusive, supportive experience to be a part of. The Korowai is hanging on the staffroom wall as a work in progress. It is a cloth to support us, protect and nurture us as we face change together throughout the year.
We reflected on the four the cloak we wanted to make and our needs - wahl -
the discussion was amazing.... it went from strength to strength as we all
realised we have the same concerns and needs etc.
I am attaching photos of our work in progress.
It was AMaZING - everyone really got involved and seemed to really enjoy
the journey.
The cloak is now up on the staffroom wall with plenty of space for more to
add their strip as lots were away today.
Thanks Again
Anne K
Study
I have been very quiet on here lately... I spent soooo much time in term 1 travelling that my holidays were spent studying. I am almost completed my Masters of Educational Leadership and what an AMAZING journey it is. On Friday I submitted my penultimate paper and I felt as if I was handing over my soul. It was an extremely emotional, powerful and challenging reflection of leadership and my place in three generations of females and our individual, overlapping, and linked leadership.
Now I am completing my final paper. This is the development of my leadership model including the key concepts of leadership for me. The core of the paper is my integration of these key concepts. The assignment has travelled with me since January when I was in Wellington. Each day I think through the concepts I have chosen and mull over their interaction. Maybe this week will see the completion of this paper... I will keep you posted!
Now I am completing my final paper. This is the development of my leadership model including the key concepts of leadership for me. The core of the paper is my integration of these key concepts. The assignment has travelled with me since January when I was in Wellington. Each day I think through the concepts I have chosen and mull over their interaction. Maybe this week will see the completion of this paper... I will keep you posted!
Balance!!!
I think I have found the missing link! Exercise!
This year is seeing my work/life balance at an all time high. I have time for study, time for learning, time for living, family, friends, reading, writing, gardening, cooking, and more...
I thought I had it all together but the missing link was exercise. I am now back at the gym and not only is it good for my physical well-being, it is great for my social, mental, emotional and spiritual well-being.
I am really struggling to get back to any form of fitness but I am determined and I am committed.
My muscles are sore and it is a glorious feeling. Roll on 6am Tuesday and Thursday... now I need to commit to a couple more sessions each week and life will be sweet.
This year is seeing my work/life balance at an all time high. I have time for study, time for learning, time for living, family, friends, reading, writing, gardening, cooking, and more...
I thought I had it all together but the missing link was exercise. I am now back at the gym and not only is it good for my physical well-being, it is great for my social, mental, emotional and spiritual well-being.
I am really struggling to get back to any form of fitness but I am determined and I am committed.
My muscles are sore and it is a glorious feeling. Roll on 6am Tuesday and Thursday... now I need to commit to a couple more sessions each week and life will be sweet.
Wednesday, April 20, 2011
OER
This afternoon I partcipated in an Eluminate Webinar on OER. I think I am developing an understanding of OER as peer conversation, sharing of good practice!
We explored a range of sites:
https://openeducationalresources.pbworks.com/w/page/24836480/Home
http://humbox.ac.uk/
Humbox looks like an awesome site that could take a while to negotiate your way around but it is chockafull of resources.
http://cloudworks.ac.uk/cloud/view/2331
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
We had a look at a summary of nTerry Anderson's characteristics of the Open Scholar.
• Open Scholars Create
• Open Scholars Use and Contribute Open Educational Resources
• Open Scholars Self Archive
• Open Scholars Apply their research
• Open Scholars do Open Research
• Open Scholars Filter and Share With Others
• Open Scholars support emerging Open Learning alternatives
• Open Scholars Publish in Open Access Journals
• Open Scholars Create Open Access Books
• Open Scholars comment openly on the works of others
• Open Scholars Build Networks
• Open Scholars Lobby for Copyright Reform
• Open Scholars Assign Open Textbooks
• Open Scholars Induce Open Students
• Open Scholars support Open Students
• Open Scholars Teach Open Courses
• Open Scholars Research Openness
• Open Scholars are Change Agents
• Open Scholars Battle with Time
• Open Scholars are Involved in the Future
This is a great self reflection list - to what extent am I an open scholar/teacher/learner?
We explored a range of sites:
https://openeducationalresources.pbworks.com/w/page/24836480/Home
http://humbox.ac.uk/
Humbox looks like an awesome site that could take a while to negotiate your way around but it is chockafull of resources.
http://cloudworks.ac.uk/cloud/view/2331
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
We had a look at a summary of nTerry Anderson's characteristics of the Open Scholar.
• Open Scholars Create
• Open Scholars Use and Contribute Open Educational Resources
• Open Scholars Self Archive
• Open Scholars Apply their research
• Open Scholars do Open Research
• Open Scholars Filter and Share With Others
• Open Scholars support emerging Open Learning alternatives
• Open Scholars Publish in Open Access Journals
• Open Scholars Create Open Access Books
• Open Scholars comment openly on the works of others
• Open Scholars Build Networks
• Open Scholars Lobby for Copyright Reform
• Open Scholars Assign Open Textbooks
• Open Scholars Induce Open Students
• Open Scholars support Open Students
• Open Scholars Teach Open Courses
• Open Scholars Research Openness
• Open Scholars are Change Agents
• Open Scholars Battle with Time
• Open Scholars are Involved in the Future
This is a great self reflection list - to what extent am I an open scholar/teacher/learner?
www.vln.school.nz
This morning I participated in an awesome Eluminate webinar session on VLN. The VLN is a global network for collaboration, relationships, knowledge and shared culture. It is a social hub/portal to connect communities for common needs to share effective practice. It gives a community wide sense of being a part of a national effort! The VLN can give a coherent and connected picture of what is happening. I spend some time today exploring the VLN. I have connected with friends and joined groups. I can see huge potential in the VLN and I am committed to setting time each week to explore and share. For me, the next step is to link some of my online sites and explore links for use in class. Exciting!!!
The quiet times....
On my return from Auckland reality struck..... I have soooo much study to do. The age old adage 'work before play' should have been my motto. Oh well, I have the most AMAZING time in Auckland and this continues to be the best professional development ever.
However there will be a long period of quiet time both on the blog and in my life. I have posted one assignment, almost finished another and contemplating the best approach to starting the major one!!!
However there will be a long period of quiet time both on the blog and in my life. I have posted one assignment, almost finished another and contemplating the best approach to starting the major one!!!
New blogs to follow...
http://room1sj.blogspot.com/
http://room2sj.blogspot.com/
http://room3sj.blogspot.com/
http://room4sj.blogspot.com/
http://room56sj.blogspot.com/
http://room78sj.blogspot.com/
http://room9sj.blogspot.com/
http://room10sj.blogspot.com/
http://room14sj.blogspot.com/
http://room15sj.blogspot.com/
http://rrsj11.blogspot.com/
http://room2sj.blogspot.com/
http://room3sj.blogspot.com/
http://room4sj.blogspot.com/
http://room56sj.blogspot.com/
http://room78sj.blogspot.com/
http://room9sj.blogspot.com/
http://room10sj.blogspot.com/
http://room14sj.blogspot.com/
http://room15sj.blogspot.com/
http://rrsj11.blogspot.com/
Blog mania
12 teachers, 45 minutes slots - here we go....
After a whirlwind of activity, NO technical glitches, a lot of fun, all twelve teachers created blogs, moderated comments, made three posts using text, picture and some media.
Most added a visitor counter, clustrmap or flag counter.
All downloaded photorazor (Thanks Sandy) to create a web friendly copy of all photos for use on the blog.
This was one of the most rewarding experiences to be a part of. I worked with a range of ages, abilities and enthusiasms and all achieved. Viewing the blogs today shows a huge range of posts and skills. It is very humbling to have been a part of such an exciting journey for this school. The Principal and school community are delighted with the beginning of a new journey. The classroom walls really do come down and the learning is shared with a wider audience!
Following are some of the reasons I think this venture was so successful:
• The one teacher with a blog had shared with the teachers and the school community were demanding more;
• The staff were able to see a range of online environments I ran and opted for blogs over wikis;
• The staff were released from classroom in pairs;
• The staff chose a support buddy to work with;
• The initial challenges of setting up, moderating comments, adding gadgets and basics of posting were all modelled and practised on the day with support;
• It was a schoolwide initiative so the blogging buzz was evident;
• The Principal is extremely supportive and is committed to spending time viewing and commenting on the blogs.
I am in awe of the exciting journey ahead for these enthuiastic learners...
After a whirlwind of activity, NO technical glitches, a lot of fun, all twelve teachers created blogs, moderated comments, made three posts using text, picture and some media.
Most added a visitor counter, clustrmap or flag counter.
All downloaded photorazor (Thanks Sandy) to create a web friendly copy of all photos for use on the blog.
This was one of the most rewarding experiences to be a part of. I worked with a range of ages, abilities and enthusiasms and all achieved. Viewing the blogs today shows a huge range of posts and skills. It is very humbling to have been a part of such an exciting journey for this school. The Principal and school community are delighted with the beginning of a new journey. The classroom walls really do come down and the learning is shared with a wider audience!
Following are some of the reasons I think this venture was so successful:
• The one teacher with a blog had shared with the teachers and the school community were demanding more;
• The staff were able to see a range of online environments I ran and opted for blogs over wikis;
• The staff were released from classroom in pairs;
• The staff chose a support buddy to work with;
• The initial challenges of setting up, moderating comments, adding gadgets and basics of posting were all modelled and practised on the day with support;
• It was a schoolwide initiative so the blogging buzz was evident;
• The Principal is extremely supportive and is committed to spending time viewing and commenting on the blogs.
I am in awe of the exciting journey ahead for these enthuiastic learners...
Staff meeting fun...
I shared a little of my passion for the online environment at a staff meeting in Takapuna!
I started with my story, and a little bit about my magic year. I briedfly outlined my study.
I shared with passion my new catch phrase 'c-learning'; create, collaborate, communicate!
I shared my maths wiki
My class blog
My class wiki
My RE-learning wiki
Throughout my sharing I asked - what could you use? how could you use it?
After some discussion I modelled posting to the blogs to show the ease of use. Great enthusiasm grew for the blog as the preferred medium.
The Principal arranged for two relievers for the following day and the teachers chose pairs to work in with me for 45 minutes each pair.
Roll on tomorrow....
I started with my story, and a little bit about my magic year. I briedfly outlined my study.
I shared with passion my new catch phrase 'c-learning'; create, collaborate, communicate!
I shared my maths wiki
My class blog
My class wiki
My RE-learning wiki
Throughout my sharing I asked - what could you use? how could you use it?
After some discussion I modelled posting to the blogs to show the ease of use. Great enthusiasm grew for the blog as the preferred medium.
The Principal arranged for two relievers for the following day and the teachers chose pairs to work in with me for 45 minutes each pair.
Roll on tomorrow....
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
Magic time in Room 9
I spent time in Room 9 and had sooooo much fun with the delightful learners. It was such a privilege to start my day with these children. They taught me new prayers and wonderful ways to start the day by blessing each other. They sing the roll. It is SOOOOOO cool. Each child gets to sing their own name in order and the class echo their name - great fun, great to get to know each other's names, great to focus and sing in order!!!
Monday, April 11, 2011
My Magical weekend in Auckland...
Well, time for me to share a little bit about my new Auckland experiences... I have always flown in and flown out or just visited the centre of Auckland in the past. I have never stopped and explored the magic this beautiful place has to offer! Well, please let me share some magic with you!
Thursday, April 7, 2011
Auckland Day 4
Today I had my first visit to a High School on this tour. I negotiated the Auckland Traffic with the help of Navman and made it to Botany Downs Secondary College. What an AMAZING school. It is so far removed from my experience of secondary school - yes, I know that wasn't yesterday, but visiting Botany Downs was like stepping into the future. It is open, spacious, modern and is a buzz of learning. If you get a chance to visit - grab it!
I had the privilege of a tour of the school with my friend Becca T. from my home town, then spent time in the textiles suite and the art suite. There were so many highlights it is hard to record them all... I was in awe of the Microsoft Partnership, the learning buzz, the motivation and engagement of the students, the resources, the whanau groupings... and so much more! The learners were communicative and eager to share their learning journey with me, both verbally and through their learning journals. Pat on the back to the parents, primary schools and Intermediates who lit the flame of learning in these students and congratulations to Botany Downs Secondary College for keeping it burning brightly.
I had the privilege of a tour of the school with my friend Becca T. from my home town, then spent time in the textiles suite and the art suite. There were so many highlights it is hard to record them all... I was in awe of the Microsoft Partnership, the learning buzz, the motivation and engagement of the students, the resources, the whanau groupings... and so much more! The learners were communicative and eager to share their learning journey with me, both verbally and through their learning journals. Pat on the back to the parents, primary schools and Intermediates who lit the flame of learning in these students and congratulations to Botany Downs Secondary College for keeping it burning brightly.
Tuesday, April 5, 2011
Auckland Day 3
Today I attended Room 5's class Mass. It was an amazing experience. The singing and speaking was sensational - the room was filled with parents and grandparents and it was a very spiritual celebration.
After break I worked with Barb sharing the passion of RElearning We worked together to add resources and links to the site.
This afternoon I spent in the Ignite TV Studio with Awesome Nick and the crew. What an amazing atmosphere!!! I am totally in awe of Nick, his passion for the show, the motivation and ownership shown by the students - just the whole experience. I am utterly overwhlemed by the technicality of it all but I am equally determined that one day in the future I will be part of a school TV studio setup. Check out the shows to date and look out for Eda and Louise making a little backdrop preview in this week's episode online later this week.
After break I worked with Barb sharing the passion of RElearning We worked together to add resources and links to the site.
This afternoon I spent in the Ignite TV Studio with Awesome Nick and the crew. What an amazing atmosphere!!! I am totally in awe of Nick, his passion for the show, the motivation and ownership shown by the students - just the whole experience. I am utterly overwhlemed by the technicality of it all but I am equally determined that one day in the future I will be part of a school TV studio setup. Check out the shows to date and look out for Eda and Louise making a little backdrop preview in this week's episode online later this week.
Monday, April 4, 2011
Auckland Day 2
Well, what an awesome start to the day!!! I was up early when Ann got a call to say the teacher who teaches in the computer suite was sick today. What an opportunity - yes, you guessed it!!! I taught for the day in the suite. Everything was set up so I followed the programme for the day!
4 sessions:
9am Room 16 Sustainability 3D Posters
10am Room 13 Sustainability 3D Posters
11.40am Room7 Mathletics
1.50pm Room 2 Mathletics
Asesome suite with 21 computers and great to see that mostly the learners are working in groups or pairs.
I had a fabulous day. I met soooo many enthusiastic learners and had an awesome tour of the school.
I am so impressed with all the Enviroschool art and I love the concept for the Holy Cross garden that the students are working on.
4 sessions:
9am Room 16 Sustainability 3D Posters
10am Room 13 Sustainability 3D Posters
11.40am Room7 Mathletics
1.50pm Room 2 Mathletics
Asesome suite with 21 computers and great to see that mostly the learners are working in groups or pairs.
I had a fabulous day. I met soooo many enthusiastic learners and had an awesome tour of the school.
I am so impressed with all the Enviroschool art and I love the concept for the Holy Cross garden that the students are working on.
Auckland Day 1
Yes I really and truly am in Auckland - it is sooooo hot! I am not used to this heat. Everyone I talk to struggles to believe that we have had the fire on at home for a few weeks now...
Anyway, today Ann took me for a huge walk around Henderson and we decided to walk to the West Waves Aquatics centre to see where I would go to see my daughter swimming in the National Open Champs tonight. Well, would you believe, we were walking round the back way to the pool and who should walk towards us but my daughter just finished the morning sessin - what a surreal coincidence...
Really looking forward to school tomorrow at Holy Cross Henderson. I am going to work with groups in the computer suite for the day and on Tuesday I am going to work with Nick and the students at the Ignite TV studio!!! Very exciting.
Anyway, today Ann took me for a huge walk around Henderson and we decided to walk to the West Waves Aquatics centre to see where I would go to see my daughter swimming in the National Open Champs tonight. Well, would you believe, we were walking round the back way to the pool and who should walk towards us but my daughter just finished the morning sessin - what a surreal coincidence...
Really looking forward to school tomorrow at Holy Cross Henderson. I am going to work with groups in the computer suite for the day and on Tuesday I am going to work with Nick and the students at the Ignite TV studio!!! Very exciting.
Saturday, April 2, 2011
Twitter Tour goes to Auckland
Twitify twit-ed ????
Mid flight to Auckland for the next leg of my Twitter journey…. Seated next to Jayde, a psychologist on the first flight, as our conversation progressed I was inspired to take this Twitter Tour a step further and do a little more than blog my journey… As the world gets more and more connected it is way smaller and smaller, we have a great ability to create, collaborate and communicate…
I was reading Interface on the flight and I am determined to ‘weasel’ a visit to Stonefields, one of the newest schools in the country. What a fascinating journey – to start a school’s ICT from scratch – I would love the opportunity to tour and discuss this with the staff.
Louise and Eka are in the seat beside me and Louise was offered a water by the host and Eka got to Kea call on the coffee servery. It is amazing what travelling with toys does for communication.
The closer I get to Auckland the darker it gets and the more stunning the skyline appears. I certainly do have my photo of the day for tomorrow. Sky photos fascinate me more and more…
Mid flight to Auckland for the next leg of my Twitter journey…. Seated next to Jayde, a psychologist on the first flight, as our conversation progressed I was inspired to take this Twitter Tour a step further and do a little more than blog my journey… As the world gets more and more connected it is way smaller and smaller, we have a great ability to create, collaborate and communicate…
I was reading Interface on the flight and I am determined to ‘weasel’ a visit to Stonefields, one of the newest schools in the country. What a fascinating journey – to start a school’s ICT from scratch – I would love the opportunity to tour and discuss this with the staff.
Louise and Eka are in the seat beside me and Louise was offered a water by the host and Eka got to Kea call on the coffee servery. It is amazing what travelling with toys does for communication.
The closer I get to Auckland the darker it gets and the more stunning the skyline appears. I certainly do have my photo of the day for tomorrow. Sky photos fascinate me more and more…
R E-learning
April 1 2011. This seems like an auspicious date for a gathering but what a great day it was. About 200 primary school teachers from around Otago and Southland got together for a gathering day. The theme of the day was "Our place in the Church of the Future in Aotearoa New Zealand."
The day started with a Karakia and a welcome by St Mary's Gore.
Each school placed their stone or rock into the display of the learning journey!
The day consisted of a 3 keynotes, 3 workshop breakouts,plenty of time to gather together and chat, great food and a closing liturgy. The atmosphere was very friendly and relaxed and I am sure a great day was had by all.
The opening Keynote concluded with the challenge of participating and collaboration for the future which led perfectly into my workshop.
I presented R E-learning a wiki designed to enable all Catholic teachers to share resources. I had a great time and I was delighted with the interaction of the group and the enthusiasm for a sharing site. I look forward to seeing the site grow as a site of creation, collaboration and communication.
... and of course there was stunning artwork to be admired and complimented at a later date.
The opening Keynote concluded with the challenge of participating and collaboration for the future which led perfectly into my workshop.
I presented R E-learning a wiki designed to enable all Catholic teachers to share resources. I had a great time and I was delighted with the interaction of the group and the enthusiasm for a sharing site. I look forward to seeing the site grow as a site of creation, collaboration and communication.
... and of course there was stunning artwork to be admired and complimented at a later date.
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